This is a blog mainly dedicated to the Privilege Denying Feminist and Feminist Cunt memes. There will also be many posts discussing any shortcomings and hypocrisies of the feminist movement.
anti feminists dont give two shits about trans people or transphobia, they pretend they do so they can discredit radical feminists, but when they talk about trans people to libfems they misgender and ridicule them, they don’t care which brand of feminism you subscribe to. because they just want to disagree with every single thing feminists say. so don’t ever listen when an egalitarian or anti feminist says anything about trans people because they literally do not care.
I’d like to point out a couple of anti feminists who actually are trans (misandryisalie, talking-fedora, permutationofninjas either currently has or has had a trans mod).
Aside from , I really don’t think a radfem can throw any stones about transphobia, considering how many think that transwomen are misogynists trying to invade ‘women only’ spaces and that transmen are traitors to their biological sex.
Also, anti feminism ≠ disagreeing with everything any feminist says. That’s like saying that atheists completely disagree with every single notion of any religion, so they hate morality and the concept of treating others like they want to be treated and so on.
tl;dr try harder
I would like to clarify that I absolutely stick by my opinions regarding that discussion. I still believe Floseph is absolutely wrong about what she said about male survivors. I’d even say she needs to apologize for her statement about male survivors. The fact that some men are survivors does not make men as a group oppressed any more so than the fact that some men are disabled or trans or men of color does not make men as a group oppressed. Tossing out male survivors as a bullet point into that kind of discussion is both disingenuous and offensive.
A sizable chunk of tumblr anti-SJs, MRAs, and what-have-you have gathered around floseph as a bastion of anti-social justice thought on tumblr and I’m sure they’ll defend her to the last straw for what she said.
The point of my apology to her was to highlight that white people have no business talking over people of color… on matters of race. As far as other topics go, I stand by what I said 100%. As someone who has dealt with many attempts at sexual assault and sexual harassment myself, I think she’s absolutely wrong.
Ha ha ha, this is completely false. Flo never said that men were oppressed. She has indicated that she doesn’t believe she’s oppressed in her “I am privileged” post. I don’t believe I’m ‘oppressed’ despite falling into several of your oppression olympics categories. So basically you just have this enormous mental short circuit anytime anyone disagrees with you and assume they mean something along the lines of what you mean when you bring up systematic issues.
All Flo took issue with was you trivializing “white cis het men” which includes a great deal of rape survivors who are ignored, and then she pointed out white people have dealt with issues too, including slavery. All anyone has done is take issue with your generalizations and poke the existing holes in them.
The only reason why anyone is forced to bring up the issues of people who don’t fall into your FAVOORITTE categories, is because that’s how you’ve set the discussion. You’ve turned it into an oppression olympics by setting things down in stone as fact, that these people have it this way. And then, when the very people you talk about relentlessly, endlessly, the very people you use to justify your ideology, when they point out that, hey, no, other people have systematic issues as well, then you have the nerve to say that they’re the ones using human beings as bullet points? All you do, every time you say that people like me and her and everyone else you talk about are “oppressed,” that is you using us as bullet points. So let’s get it straight: you’ve set the tone, you constantly use human beings as talking points for your ideology, and anyone responding to you, no, they’re just talking on the terms you’ve set. They’re not the ones in the wrong here. None of us want to use real human struggles in some theoretical discussion of who has it worse. You’re just going around spreading your ideas as facts, and describing our lives for us, and the lives of the people we care about for them, and we hate it. I don’t think you do anything worthwhile and I think you make it harder for people to be helped.
Tossing out people like me, and her, and countless other people who disagree with you as bullet points, as you regularly do, as you almost constantly do, that is disingenuous and offensive. Get that straight. Suggesting she owes you the apology is repulsive.
Ask and you shall recieve
You know, asking people to move would be more effective than passive aggressively blogging. Or maybe ask for a sign to be put up in the train station. But you’d accomplish a hell of a lot more by doing any of those than by running a blog dedicated to pictures of men’s balls.
Ask….. People….. To…… Move?????
Wow… It’s almost like you didn’t even read that handy-dandy FAQ.
P.S. There’s nothing “passive” about my aggression.
Nothing passive? Are you that delusional?
Active solution: tell the guy to actually move over
Passive solutions: complaining to a friend, just loud enough so that he hears it; saying something along the lines of “don’t you just hate it when people take up too much space?” (Yes, that’s still passive; you’d still expect him to solve the issue himself without explicitly telling him that you’re irritated ); complaining to family, friends, and on the damn internet
This is passive as fuck. Don’t kid yourself
I honestly hate the term PoC, because it’s annoyingly over generalized.
It’s like… there’s two categories of race “white” and “colored”, which is annoying because I’m brown. I’m brown of Arab, Turk, and Iranian descent. I have an identity but these people who think it is a very good term don’t realise how it erases much of my identity.
The use the term ‘PoC’ outside of its intended context is extremely ignorant. You can’t call all non-whites of the world PoC. That is like going to Africa and calling the black people there “minorities”. Yes, of course they may still suffer a terrible oppression, but to say it is specifically because they are a certain race/color/ethnicity is so so SO wrong. I’m not saying that it ISN’T for that reason, I am saying it is not for that reason EVERYWHERE.
I am of mixed Arab and ‘white’ ethnicities. I’ve lived in Saudi Arabia and the US. In Saudi, we wouldn’t call ourselves persons of color because then it would apply to everyone. But as soon as I am in the US I am painted with this term.
In Saudi, the oppression doesn’t happen because ~omg evil white people!! It happens because of Saudis who govern their own country, and I’m sick of this mass ignorant lie that non-white people can do no evil or if they do, it’s secretly because of white people’s influence.
The way some Saudis treat their maids & other ‘lowly’ workers (who tend to be South Asians) IS slavery. Things that would send you straight to jail in America are still perfectly common there. Oppression isn’t black and white.
I’ve heard complaints ranging from “DERS ONLY WHITE PPL” (basically, same situation as Brave) to “TEH FEMALE CHARACTERS SUCK!”
You know, Peeta’s unconventional masculinity is as relevant for traditional gender subversion in The Hunger Games as Katniss’s unconventional femininity.
It’s a bit annoying to see everyone and their mother praising Katniss for being such a unique action female hero, and…
Oh, so this is that “male privilege” I hear so much about…..
So sad boohoo did you expect me to careeeee
If you are a decent human being, you would care regardless of gender.
The whole blog doesn’t make much sense, so the strawmen being illogical kinda fits.
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I would have no problem with jokes like this if the exact same people who think this is funny didn’t lose their goddamn minds when the genders are reversed
What’s idiotic about wanting men to legally be able to be raped in countries where they currently by law cannot be raped by women? In the United Kingdom rape laws specifically use the word MAN using HIS PENIS or fingers to penetrate someone. How’s that idiotic? How’s wanting to not be forced to pay child support for a kid who may or may not be yours that you’ll maybe see but probably not as often as her. what’s idiotic about wanting women to get equal jail sentences to men for the same crime, and not as feminists want to have women get out of jail because they’ve got kids?
THESE ARE ALL FEMINIST ISSUES THEY HAVE TO DO WITH THE PATRIARCHY I WILL TACKLE THEM POINT BY POINT FOR YOU EVEN WOW IM SO ANGRY AT THIS
1) RAPE LAWS ASSUME ALL MEN ARE RAPISTS DISMANTLING A PATRIARCHY WOULD ELIMINATE SUCH ACCUSATIONS AND ASSUME ALL PEOPLE ARE GOOD UNLESS THEY COMMIT CRIMES ESPECIALLY RAPE MAN OR WOMAN WOW
Except it is often feminists who define rape in such a way that it makes it impossible for men to be the victims. In India there were major protests by feminists that blocked the inclusion of gender neutral rape laws. This is a country that is considered both a patriarchy and highly oppressive to women, yet these “powerless” women managed to stop government legislation because they feared men would file false rape accusations.
2) THIS ISNT EVEN AN ISSUE IF ITS NOT YOURS JUST GET A FUCKING PATERNITY TEST WHAT ARE YOU SAYING
You are incredibly misinformed. Real life is not like television, paternity tests have to be approved by the mother and if she refuses they need to be court-ordered. You can do a private test, but that is not admissible as evidence during a paternity suit. So it is not nearly as easy as you are making it seem. Family law in the US is heavily skewed towards women. This is an institutional privilege. You cannot in good faith deny that.
3) IF IT IS YOURS PATRIARCHY DICTATES THAT MAN MAKE MONEY WOMAN RAISE CHILD NO PATRIARCHY MEANS THAT CUSTODY AND/OR CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENTS ARE BASED ON MERIT OH MY GOSH ISNT THAT AMAZING
You do realize that prior to about 1850 primary custody defaulted to the father? Feminist activism was what set legal precedent to give the mother custody with the Tender Years Doctrine. I am not saying default male custody is good, but it is not any worse than default female custody. And NOW opposes default joint custody. For the record, with no links to the studies that cited or any sort of numbers, I am going to call bullshit on saying men get custody more often when there is a dispute. I have read too many studies and the people who use this can only ever cite one.
4) FEMINISM = EQUALITY EVEN IF THAT MEANS EQUAL JAIL TIME FOR WOMEN I HAVE NEVER HEARD ANYONE EVER SAY THAT WOMEN SHOULD BE JAILED FOR LESS TIME BECAUSE CHILDREN WOWIE ZOWIE
That’s funny because in England judges have been told to go give women lighter sentences, give community sentences as opposed to jail and prison sentences, and the author of Orange is the New Black has said that separating women from their children is a “second sentence”. All of the prison reform that I have seen has been either focused of people accused of drug charges or about women. Never do you hear about the astronomical levels of rape is male prisons. The only people I have ever heard talk about it are MRAs. In fact, the men in prison are the people who coined the term “rape culture” and prison is really the only place where rape is condoned at all. I mean, the general conclusion of this statement is that you have never really spent any time looking into the politics of prison reform. Never does it exclusively focus on men, despite men making up ~90% of the prison population.
LEGITIMATE MEN’S RIGHTS CLAIMS ALWAYS HAVE TO DO WITH “OPPRESSION” BY PATRIARCHY HOWEVER ALL THESE CLAIMS ARE NOTHING COMPARED TO WHAT WOMEN HAVE TO DEAL WITH DAILY OH MY GOD I AM A MAN AND IM SAYING THIS DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT
Out of curiosity, what do you believe that women have to deal with? I lived as a woman for eighteen years and never once did I experience anything akin to the problems mentioned above. In fact, you saying this is infantalizing women. You are acting as though everything women face is as bad as, for example, not having a rape legally acknowledged or having a much higher chance of the death penalty and essentially saying “Suck it up” to all the people attempting to tackle men’s rights issues, and that is really not cool. And seeing how feminism is really not doing anything to help the men facing these problems, what is the major issue with MRAs tackling them?
You are attempting to make issues where men definitely have it worse and say that women are still the real victims. So, in light of that, I am going to have to ask you to please let the people who know what they are talking about do something and leave them alone. You are supremely uneducated when it comes to men’s issues and until you learn you are going to do nothing but make a fool of yourself.
I’d say no, but that’s just me.